ã€Global Science and Technology Report】 The annual IT leaders summit opened in Shenzhen this morning. This year's theme, "Towards a new era of intelligence," focuses on the hottest areas of artificial intelligence on the Internet. But for the word AI, Ma Yun has different opinions.
Ma Yun, who gave an opening keynote speech at the conference, said that the future is not about artificial intelligence but Machine Intelligence.
On the prevailing fear of society replacing the future intelligent-age machines, Ma Yun also believes that this is not the case. “In the past, people used machines as machines, machines were used as machines in the future, and machines were better than people. Machines did not do anything. It's not amazing. The machine should be the best Partner, not the biggest human opponent.â€
Ma Yun also stated in his speech that China is already strong today and is no longer called the disease of East Asia. However, if the knowledge structure is not good, the wisdom is bad, and the entire cultural system is bad, it is really terrible. This is called the Internet disease. "What should an internet company do, what the education system should do, and what the human values ​​system should do, I think this may be the topic that I want to think about and hope to bring to everyone."
Over the years, the IT leaders summit, the most widely known is the BAT three giants in the debate in 2010, Li Yanhong pointed at the cloud computing is a new bottle of old wine, Ma Huateng said that cloud computing is premature, Ma Yun responded that Alibaba on the cloud Calculating with confidence.
In today’s speech, Ma Yun easily ridiculed cloud computing. “People are not as good as they are, and days are clouds.â€
The following is a record of Ma Yun's speech:
Over the past nine years, the Shenzhen IT Leaders Summit has given the industry a lot of thought. In fact, I was a teacher. Therefore, I spend more time on nonsense, more chances, and my duties. Because I'm not a technical person. I'm not For business people, my duty is to use all my past thoughts, experiences and resources to share all the questions with you.
My speech is not necessarily correct, but I just want to give you some thoughts. In 2000-2005, I made at least 200 exchanges in Guangdong. I asked a lot of small entrepreneurs, including many retail industries. The impact of e-commerce on the retail industry, at that time, I think we believe that there are not many people. At that time, people in the retail industry laughed at us and found it impossible to be shocked. Artificial intelligence, big data, regardless of how you imagine, human imagination is limited, you think the future is like this, in fact, the future is not like this. I am here to talk about some ideas that I have been firmly convinced of. The next 20 years will be the era of Internet technology. The next 30 years will be the era of the Internet, social changes, the speed of all walks of life, the speed of change will be faster and faster. . Whether you are happy or happy, like it or like it, the changes in the next thirty years are far beyond everyone's imagination.
Now that everybody is looking at the real economy, the economy is not doing well. In fact, the real economy has never been better. It is difficult to say that companies are difficult to do. Enterprises have never done anything good. Ten years ago it was not very easy to do. The real economy is talking about the impact of the Internet. In fact, only the vast majority of China's real economy, or most of the manufacturing industry, is ravaging the Internet. In the United States and Europe, all companies that do poorly are asking themselves this question. Everyone thinks about it. The Internet is not a scapegoat. It should not be a scapegoat. Everyone should think about how to use the Internet and do these things better. Two days ago, I heard that online and offline are unfair, and taxation is required for online and offline taxation. In fact, taxation under the online and offline lines is fair and unfair. This is a false proposition, and it is essentially a large enterprise and a small business. I have never seen a major online company not paying taxes. As long as it is taxed to a certain extent, today we should not stare at how much tax these small companies pay, but should instead look at whether these small companies have made money and have no profits. Whether or not you have survived, and today don't look at how much the Internet has impacted your industry. Instead, think about how you use the Internet.
In the next decade or so, it will speed up the transformation of the five industries. Some people say that I am “nonsenseâ€. I have always been “nonsense†and it doesn’t matter again.
The first retail became a new retail, and the new retail was a change of online and offline logistics. Before you talked about how important e-commerce is, it doesn’t matter if you don’t talk about e-commerce now, and e-commerce will continue to grow rapidly in the next five years, but we Think about what will happen in ten years. In fact, I spend a lot of time thinking about a problem. When I started my business, I thought, I didn't accumulate, my dad didn't have money, my dad didn't have an official, and I didn't have a bankruptcy job. I don't have what I call today. There is neither accumulation nor resources. The only thing you think about is the judgment of the future. Everyone judges what will happen in ten years. The more accurate the judgement of the future, and then you follow this path and you have the possibility of winning.
We think of doing business until today. The E-Commerce Council will be very good within five years. Ten years later, pure E-Commerce will be very difficult and offline retailing will be very difficult. Therefore, new retailing must actually integrate online and offline logistics. For the issue to be considered, the future of retail is not to think about how to sell things, but to learn how to serve your customers well. In fact, in the United States, traditional retailers have done a good job. Most of them are learning how to serve your customers better than to learn to sell. In the past ten years or so, what we think of any of the various types of promotions in traditional retail is how to sell things. Therefore, it is a great change from selling things to serving others.
New manufacturing, the future of the manufacturing industry is not standardization, scale, but customized and intelligent. In Guangdong, I can say that Guangdong's manufacturing industry will suffer more impacts than the Yangtze River Delta in the next decade and a half. Because it has always been processing, standardization, customization, and assembly lines, which must be highly valued. I said in Shanghai a few years ago that the retail industry in Shanghai's Huaihai Road and Nanjing Road must face future challenges and challenges in the retail industry.
Today's manufacturing industry in Guangdong is bound to face the challenge of new manufacturing in the future. That is, personalization, customization, and intelligence will become the future. Your original standards, assembly lines, and containers will all become troublesome. So everyone knows that there is a very important point in this wisdom. In the past, mobile phones were originally called, and after the operating system was installed, the function of the mobile phone was less than 20%. Assuming that the car was loaded into the operating system, the role of traffic would be Not 20%.
New financial and financial shocks will also increase. Traditional finance will solve the 28 problem. Traditional finance is particularly evident in China. Financial institutions need only 20% of large companies, state-owned enterprises, and foreign-funded enterprises. So 80% Consumers, small businesses, first, he does not need to manage, do not necessarily do a good job, because of technology. The new financial solution to the 82nd issue is to resolve 80% of consumers and SMEs. How can we solve the small businesses we often discuss? We can't get the money. I think today in India, we used the technology of our Ant Financial Services. In a short period of one or two years, there are already 200 million Indians who have used mobile phones to open accounts and make payments. This is also the case in China today. Alipay and Wechat payment have a huge impact on the entire Chinese payment industry. Innovation is also important. Very large. So new finance will grow bigger and bigger.
The third is new technology. The core technology will not be revolved around PC-based chips or PC operating systems and databases in the future. I have always felt that we should not overtake passing lanes, but instead change lanes to overtake. The road is overtaking nine cars. If you want to overtake the road, the odds of overtaking will not be too great. I would like to surpass you in front of you. There is no chance. Only passing on another road will be possible. According to big data and mobile internet, In the entire future of cloud computing, mobile operating systems, mobile smart chips, artificial intelligence, China has a chance. But in the PC field, I think it is still very difficult.
Finally, new energy, the energy of the first technological revolution is coal, the energy of the second technological revolution is oil, and the energy of the third technological revolution is mainly data. So the social changes will be bigger and bigger. Every change in technology is a change in employment, so we all know that this is not a joke a few days ago. There are two robbers in Hangzhou, and even grab three supermarkets, and finally only grab the 1800. The renminbi was also arrested. Everyone in Hangzhou pays Alipay. No one uses cash in stores and supermarkets. At the entrance of the Lung Cheung Bridge, a two-dimensional code is placed on the door. You can use the two-dimensional code to give money. You must use a two-dimensional code for the meal. The neglect and neglect of new technologies will rob you of your employment and create countless jobs.
In the last technological revolution, in 1870, farmers in the United States accounted for 50%. Everyone knows that one hundred years have passed. Now that the American peasants only account for 2%, in the real estate industry in China, everyone knows of development and employs tens of thousands of migrant workers. But recently you discovered that in the past two years, we used to always worry about how to do migrant workers in the city, real estate is gone, where migrant workers go, and express delivery.
Therefore, solving the huge social problems, Shenzhen is also the same, in the process of development in Shenzhen, every city has a lot of migrant workers, real estate suddenly did not, the gang did not return to the countryside, they went to the courier, of course, also go back.
Another point, a lot of technology, many of you think that is really unique, technology, many white-collar workers are gone, everyone is talking about it, big data, cloud computing, that data analyst is not very lively, I tell you There was no data analyst in this profession 10 years later. I also think so, I talked with the company five years ago. We started a project called ET project. We think the future machine will be smarter than people. Thirty years later, Time magazine’s cover is the best CEO of the year. robot. If you believe this, don’t believe it, it will all start. If your technology does not make this world more inclusive and fair, if your company's technology cannot make your social economy more durable, if your technology does not make humans happier and healthier, I think yours Technology does not make much sense.
In the past, we had to rely on resources to start a business. We must have money and have a relationship. In the future, you have to start a business. We ask you if you have the technology, if you have any data, if you have any innovation, so this is my opinion. Another point is that all entrepreneurs present here should bear in mind that in fact, Wang Jianlin had played a bet with me. There are many online and offline games. Now I don't think this bet is of much significance. Because in the past we called entrepreneurs entrepreneurs, and in the future we call entrepreneurs nentrepreneurs. No one company can completely escape from the Internet. In the past, we said that electricity is high technology, and people say that electricity is a high technology, and the Internet is not a high technology. This is All infrastructure must be used by all industries. So instead of taking up this item today, it's better to turn the gun and let the employees spend more time here. In the next 30 years, the world will not belong to the Internet companies, but to companies that use the Internet.
In the past, if it was BAT, BAT would not be able to generalize technology, resources, capabilities, and talents. BAT would become smaller and smaller. Only by turning its own technology into a kind of inclusive technology could it be possible. Therefore, I still want the future. In the past three decades, it was not the era of Internet companies but the era of Internet companies. The same is true for network operators. It is not a change of form but a deepening of ideas. Everyone knows that most of the customers you serve in the future are online. 80% of online consumers today are after 80. In the past few years, the post-2000s and post-2000s are basically online. So you are no longer possible. We now have a big wave of people who are all offline. A 50-year-old or 60-year-old person has a leader who told me before. I never go online and never shop. I say this. Not a fashionable thing, not a fashion thing. I used to say that only people who have a lower level of middle peasants and no culture can be party secretary, and this is nothing proud. We must learn that for another 20 years and 30 years, we face all the customers born to be on the Internet.
The two sentences mentioned by our company, all business data, the second sentence is all data business, all business is not based on data, forget, do not do, all data must be business, all data must be business, only Only in this way can we meet this era. We are more frightened than any other company. If we are on thin ice, we must force a change in the model of success yesterday. Therefore, the entrepreneur of the future is an open mind. He must be in favor of his spirit, as well as a sense of responsibility, but also a global perspective. Its implementation is also confused at the point of domestic globalization and internationalization. Internationalization is a capability. Globalization is a pattern. Internationalization does not open two factories abroad. You can speak a few English words and have an international perspective. Internationalization is a capability. Globalization is a pattern. Globalization creates value for the local community. You go to the local area not because he has a cheap labor force, not because he has cheap resources in the local area, but to go to the local area. The creation of unique values ​​has created more job opportunities and tax revenues in the local area. Only such companies are called global companies.
In the future, we hope everyone will pay great attention. In the next 30 years, we will pay close attention to companies with less than 30 employees and pay close attention to people under the age of 30 because they will become a symbol of the progress of the entire society in the next 30 years. Finally, when we talk about AI artificial intelligence, I feel that I have different views, allowing me to have different views, right, last year's IT leaders summit, I attended workshops in the evening, everyone talked about Alpha Go. Look, I personally feel So What. Machines run faster than people. Everyone admits that machines are smarter than people, and everyone does not admit it. I think we are just a few people who are smart. This person is particularly good at endorsing, and the computer is much better than you. This person The arithmetic is fast, the computer is not known how much faster than you, the computer has no emotion. The fun that we have originally played in Go is the opponent's next step, playing with one hand, and the result is that the other party's foul chess is no more. What does it mean? If the machine can do a good job, what is not, Go beat the people, just insulted the people only, the machine to do is what humans can not do, this is called the ability.
Not called artificial intelligence. It should be Machine intelligence. Machines must have their own thinking. Machines must have their own methods. Cars are also machines. But cars mimic humans. If they walk on two legs, they will never run fast. It is through Two tires. In the next twenty or thirty years, it is necessary to think about how to use an intelligence fixed in a machine. I have seen this industry in the United States for a long time. I have read many scholars and experts. Brain neurosurgery experts have entered artificial intelligence and entered artificial intelligence. I think this is a little bit mysterious. Our human understanding of our brain is less than 3%. We Let the machine learn 3%.
I think people do a good job. The machine is doing well. It will only make people more and more frustrated. We want to let the machine do the bad things that people can't create. This is what I think in Machine intelligence, everyone. Consider the fact that there are still many prospects. So in the past hundred years of mankind, we have made man a machine. In the next hundred years, we will turn machines into people. This man is different from people in our imagination. It's like some people say aliens, extraterrestrials are creatures, not humans, and people are too arrogant. They think that aliens should be like us, and they should be ashamed. If we spend more time on Machine intelligence, we really make the machine the best partner, not the biggest opponent. Only in this way, mankind has the responsibility and responsibility to make the machine a partner of man and become a partner of man. Instead of letting the machine replace it, this is our generation.
Today is the human decision we made 15 years ago. Today’s position is today’s hard work 15 years ago. Today is ours. Ours today is the same in society after 15 years and 20 years. development of. The greatest capability in the 21st century is the ability to serve others. In the IT era, everything is to strengthen itself. The DT era is to strengthen others, empower others, and make others stronger. This is the DT era. I probably talked about the DT era three or four years ago. The first two days Americans said how smart you were. How do you know DT? They said that DT is Donald Trump. I said it was Data. These are two words. Humans entered the era of DT. Not Donald Trump era. Strategy considers two aspects. One considers oneself. One considers others and considers only oneself. It is not a good strategy. You only consider yourself, and you can't pull it down. It's done, and you need to think about how others think. How Alibaba did not do logistics express delivery, in fact, we are doing logistics express delivery, but the rookie has only 2,000 people.
You think that if we have to recruit one million or two million couriers, the first one really brings us one or two million couriers. Our company may also manage to squat down, and the second really wrestles people's jobs. You What do we say, do you say that employing several courier managers is a truly unique technology? It's not technology. Unique service skills should be left to others. If you do all the work, the day you made it is also your demise day. So I think when people do strategies, they need to be prepared, what to do if they are not successful, and what to do if they are successful. The next 30 years are no longer a competition of strength, a muscle competition, or even a competition of knowledge, but a competition for the ability to serve others, but an experience of competition. Therefore, women will flourish in the next 30 years. In the past, we had muscle competition and later knowledge competition. Now we experience competition and feel competition. Men and women have differences. Men care about their power, status, promotion, and salary increase. Women must consider children, husbands, husbands, and work. A lot, but also to do a good job, 47% of Alibaba's employees are women.
In the dispute over the physical fictitious economy, all of China calls the Internet economy a fictitious economy. The main players in the fictitious economy are banks and the financial sector. The Chinese are afraid to break into the banking industry. Because at a glance, your loans will not be available for loans. Everyone talks about the Internet. In fact, the main body of the virtual economy is the financial sector. In addition, the Internet is not a virtual economy. It is an integrated virtual economy. Because only in this way can the sustainable development of the Internet economy be achieved. The real economy or the virtual economy should not have been The opposite, the real economy is now difficult, I now tell everyone that the world is difficult, the virtual economy is strong, in fact, there are many garbage in the virtual economy, there are many garbage in the real economy, and now that can not be eliminated, I think that the elimination must be eliminated, It is impossible to defend that in order to protect those who are dying, a large real economy, if it does not grasp the Internet in the past two or three decades or the past two or three decades, grasp the future era and grasp the changes in the market, The damn should let it die, these companies will not die, and many large companies will die in the future.
We cannot say that the transformation and upgrading, on the one hand, also need to protect the backward industries. This is unreliable. Including the Internet economy may not be. I tell everyone that the Internet economy is not doing well. Apart from BAT, please tell me which companies have very good profits. Why BAT has a good profit, not only because they are going early, not only Only because of their focus, but each company has its own core competitiveness, core technology, Tencent's technology, Baidu's technology, Ali's technology, technology is the real dividend in the future. If you do not have a unique technology, rely on the scale, low cost, whether you are the Internet or the real economy, will be drained. Think about it today. In the real economy that has fallen, China’s real economy is also good. The real economy has done a lot better, and a lot of them have done badly. The Internet economy is also the same, so we can't blame an industry. To blame a company can only blame itself.
A company without profit cannot take risks. It cannot risk making future strategies. It cannot take risks. Another is that due to changes in various industries, regulation will also change. Small enterprises rely on products for innovation, medium-sized enterprises rely on technology for innovation, and large enterprises rely on systems for innovation. One country, Zhu Min has just said, must consider the development of the entire country. The reform of the system, any innovation, must finally be the innovation of supervision, and must be the innovation of the system. In the past two years I went to a World Basketball Association, and the basketball association’s people told me that it was a very funny thing. The earliest time It was the rim, the ball was thrown in, the ladder was put on it, it was out, and then the game was basically done. It was done for many years. Eighteen years later, one person said that the bottom of the basket was not cut well, and the bottom was cut off. The speed of the ball is fast, and the basketball game looks better. Who is the opponent? People who take ladders, I haven't worked. It's no good. It must be reformed. In fact, basketball innovation is very simple, innovation is not so complicated, but it is to cut this end spent more than 10 years, after the cut into the real system, it will be longer.
Tell everyone that there is a lot of cost behind any innovation. Everyone knows that in 1865, the UK had a very interesting bill called the Motor Vehicle Bill. Later it called the red flag bill. In 1865, the British car came out. All the drivers of street cars are the coachmen. At that time, the coachman is a white-collar worker. He is technically active. He has a lot of work. The car comes out. It's too good. It must be destroyed. Finally, a motor vehicle bill is passed. The important one is that the car must not be opened faster than the carriage. It is very important that there must be three people in each car. Two people must be seated in the car. One person must take a red flag at a distance of 50 meters and cannot exceed the red flag. speed. At that time, the speed of the car was 6.4 kilometers per hour, which was similar to that of a person running to protect the interests of the carriage. Then a car industry that was alive was dragged down by the bill. As a result, when Germany got up, the United States simply spent 30 years and went all the way to this place. The United States has become the country on wheels and has grasped the shift from automobiles to oil energy.
It is remembered that in 1895, the motor vehicle bill was cancelled after a full thirty years. Today's China and today's world, there are many red flag bills in the formulation or brewing, and will be more and more. So I hope that people are not as good as heaven, and that day is cloud computing. Supervision must be changed from people to calculations. It must be more scientific and more focused on the future. Education will also undergo tremendous changes. After the emergence of artificial intelligence, please remember that the method of education, you want to go faster with the machine than anyone, who counts as accurate, we let the children go back, before my math is actually good of. Later, what mathematical formula I used was not used today and it was completely muddled out. In our future education, we must rethink and rethink our education. We used to convince older people to get young people. Today, we can get old people by fixing our young people. The future society is not a competition of knowledge but a competition of wisdom and a competition of experience. In smart competition, we must understand that children must learn music, sports, sports, and fine arts. Music makes people fluent and fluent. Sports make people understand teamwork. We let children learn to draw and have imagination. We let children know a lot of things beyond knowledge. The emphasis in the suburbs is not only the imparting of knowledge in the future, but also the focus on imagination, creativity and teamwork. The education system of our country will have a major impact in the next 30 years.
If Zhu Min’s map just mentioned is realized, how many people will be screaming because our education methods and education systems are trained in the industrial age, so education and education are two different things. Teaching is knowledge, education and culture, I I hope that everyone will think about it. Our country faces the future of big data and cloud computing in the education reform era. Everyone speaks of reform and opening up. The dividend of China’s promotion of reform and opening up comes from knowledge and power. Deng Xiaoping resumes the college entrance examination and makes knowledgeable people. To be rich first, this is actually the key. In the next 30 years, what is needed by our country and this era, we must retrain our children today.
Finally, there was a little bit of controversy to discuss with everyone. We felt that people could see that this malnourished person, like me, did not look a bit thin. Like African refugees, they called it the East Asian disease husband, but people came to this day. So far, we have not thought about it. If your knowledge structure is bad, your wisdom is bad, and your entire cultural system is bad, it is actually terrible. This is what we call the Internet disease. More and more people are now on the Internet in our country. However, more and more people are showing up on the Internet. They have network violence and do not understand and have a lot of water. If we do not replenish our nutrition, many important businesses, many important positions, and many important positions, if these people you can bring this picture out, African refugees, this is malnutrition, if you put this person If the knowledge culture is malnourished, you will find that we have more things to do in this country.
The current cyber violence has become this state, but when we are greeted for the future, what should we do, what should the network companies do, what the education system should do, and what the human values ​​system should do, I think This may be the topic that I want to think about and hope to bring to everyone. Maybe in the next 20 years, we will not be an Internet technology because the Internet will open up and expand many issues. This has also caused our nation’s past decades of decline, and the resulting imbalances and defects in knowledge and culture. more and more.
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